Im in the process of painting my OLD kitchen cabinets. I would like you to please comment on a different aspect: The vertical pieces (your mullion) are called stiles, and the horizontal pieces are rails.

If Ive got about 20 doors, Im looking at $200for HINGES!

Hopefully now you have a good understanding of the different types of doors, and overlays. Partial overlay doors cover just a a portion of the cabinet front. We recently decided to paint our existing kitchen cabinet doors.

Here is the question> should it be a problem for me to use the 1/2 hinges instead of 5/8 hinges.

my sidewall is 5/8 but door is 3/4 thick Sandra, thank you so much for this awesome post! I also would like to have the least amount of work required as my son in law has offered to work on this but he has not done anything like this before.

Can I use a 1/2 overlay concealed hinge? Current master bathroom used to be the outside patio. Required fields are marked *. I am very new to all this so forgive my ignorance but I have a question about these hinges that I cant seem to find information on, or I am just missing it somehow.

Face frame cabinets usually feature exposed hinges and an overlay.

Make sure you read all the specifications on the hinges to ensure youre getting what will work for you. I have some bathroom cabinets I need to build and have been trying to decide what type of hinges I should use. LOL.

What do you typically do for the top rail on the upper? Hmm debating.

I see that you have answered questions from 2013 and as recently as yesterday.

What kind of hinges would you use to put full overlay doors over face framed cabinets? Can you tell me what you would suggest?

These are designed for use on materials from 5/8 to 3/4 thick and allow overlays of 1/2 to 5/8 (depending on door thickness). Cabinets that are framed with a faceframe and those that are not. Visit the Solution Center to Explore Articles. There are no identifiable marks/name on the hinge. This ought not to happen but it does & with all the concealed overlay hinges I have seen.

Meant for doors that are 3/4 thick. Jigs like that remove my fear of failure and get the project moving forward!

Thanks for any help you are willing to give! You can add more flair to your cabinets by adding decorative hinges. Our old house has been added on by various owners several times. The Jig It from Rockleris one of less expensive cup hinge drilling jigs. If you were dealing with cabinet doors built in 1984 and you are repainting them and they are partial overlay, what hinges would you go with?

So, if you have double doors and no middle stile (vertical piece), you would create a gap where you could see into the cabinet.

If you only have 1/4 overlay on the outsides of each cabinet, taking 1/4 from the outside opposite the hinge, you wouldnt be overlaying the cabinet at all on that side. Or do you make the top rail 2 1/2" or bigger to nail the crown to? It also depends how the cabinets are build. Yep.

Go for it! Here are some of the main disadvantages of face frame cabinets: Less drawer box capacity: While framed cabinets are sturdier, they have about 1 less interior room than frameless cabinetry. Frameless cabinets simply do not have a faceframe. All the information in one place that you can download and keep on hand! The middle drawer has very narrow top and bottom border on it. Here is a link to concealed hinges for 3/8 lipped faceframe doors. We checked the chimney, the fireplace still works! I want to upgrade a 1960s style plywood cabinets with overlay hinges onto a cabinets with frames, but I had no idea what type of hinges to look for, or if I could find hinges that would work on this design. any suggestions? She has her new doors but when she hangs them, theres a 1/4 gap between the door and center stile, even after adjusting them. Could you possibly do one on measuring and installing drawers on a cabinet or closet wall unit? I finally figured out what to ask for, THANKS. You have face frame cabinets.

Is there an answer?

They are better suited for homes with a farmhouse aesthetic or those looking for a warm, comfortable vibe. My cabinets have a face frame with a 1/4 in overlay.

There are a lot more hinge choices that what Ive included in this post. Thank you! Im subscribing to your website or blog or whatever you have! Frameless cabinets require a bit more work.

And yes, all we make is frameless casework, the standard in commercial work. My hubby has searched local specialty hardware stores and on-line and ive searched as well come up with no match. I repainted an old cabinet and have tried THREE different types of hinges that didnt fit. does anyone have a New Opal White marble countertop with a seam? Want soft closing hinges, a nice project. Thanks so much. The face frame edges vary from 1 inch wide to 2 inches wide and are composed of stiles (vertical parts of the frame) and rails (horizontal parts of the frame), resembling a flat picture frame.

Now, I find that if I order 50 5/8 inch soft close hinges, it will cost me >$60.00 more. Here is an example with white shaker doors, but full overlay cabinetry. Boy, we are glad youre here. Very handy! For a full overlay cabinet door.using a Blum style hinge..does the cabinet sidewall thickness have to be the same as the door thickness ? This site is great and so easy for this 74 year old grandmother to understand. A lot of older cabinets have surface mounted overlay hinges. One disadvantage of full overlay cabinet doors compared to inset is that their corners are exposed, making it easier to develop nicks and damage over time. Here's a look at the question from several perspectives.

Old hickory cabinets still look great, and the wife loves them, but hates the sound of them closing. Inset versus Full Overlay Frameless Cabinets.

cabinet kitchen cabinets overlay hinges door doors inset styles completely frames bwflorida thanked Cabinet Connection of NC. Ive been using that jig for like 8 years and I love it. 1/8 reveal on all sides is good. Renovation, cabinet building and woodworking plans and tutorials. Second, a post like this is so helpful.

The doors and drawers are extra large and arent set inside the cabinet frame, allowing more room for storage. cabinet doors overlay door cabinets kitchen dimensions styles reveal vs standard custom frame cabinetry inch panel shaker woodcraft face highlandsdesigns All the specific overlay measurement hinges Ive found appear to be for framed cabinets, but all the posts I see say you need to match the overlay amount.

2) I also note that it does not take long before doors start to sag & the gaps become irregular.

When we removed storage cabinets in the master bath to replace termite eaten studs (10 studs, 10 ceiling joists, a 14-foot structural beam all eaten by subterranean termites! Thank you.

Full overlay covers everything.

There are three types of face frame cabinets: full overlay, partial overlay, and inset doors. There are a lot of factors in choosing the right cabinet door hinges. Not hard to fix just lie on your back, take all doors off, then tighten everything & replace then take a cold shower you will need it! With the wide array of hinges available, you can make your door overlay anywhere from 1/4 to over 1 1/2 of your cabinet front material. You are so smart!

So far you are the only one I have found.

The only points of consideration are mounting style (if you have a faceframe or not) and overlay.

The type of cabinet and door being at the top of the list.

IF you cant find specifically 1/4 overlay. Exposed hinges are most often used when replacing hardware on old kitchen cabinet doors. Youll have to search and I find the internet is the best place to find every possible option out there.

1) Just about all kitchen cupboard hinges I see go rusty after a few years, say 5 to 10. inotherwords, they completely cover the cabinet.

Doors are the most expensive part of the cabinets, and by the time you add labor, you can be 75%-150% of the cost of all new cabinets.. We got full inset shaker cabinets with soft close hidden hinges because we didn't know there's a style called "full" overlay doors :/ I love the look of both, but didn't know we could save some money if choosing full overlay. Isnt it crazy how expensive hardware can be. The only problem I can see with changing the overlay is if you have any cabinets with double doors. Face-frames are attached to the front of cabinets.

Plan on doing this just as soon as the soft closing drawer slides are all installed. This was the most informative, easy to understand post on changing out my cabinet hardware!

oak inset cabinets kitchen cabinet transitional island modern doors flat rift contemporary kitchens sawn frame face panel shaker hardware cabinetry Were installing full overlay cabinets in our kitchen and were trying to select hinges for the upper cabinets particularly the cupboard doors on the end which when closed is perpendicular to a wall. https://www.behance.net/gallery/43832305/Kitchen. Thank you so much.

Based on what hinges you can find, you may or may not have too many options. Is the door touching the wall when its closed? Such an awesome and informative writing!

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What sort of hinges should I use and do they need to have a cup drilled in the door? They are set inside the cabinet frame, and a door pull or a knob is required to open the cabinet. Sandra, I think its going to depend on the size of the overlay. thx for your help. The bottom drawer has a thicker bottom border.

I already knew about the different options, but its so nice to see it all compiled in one place.

We also decided to change to soft close hinges.

Great website glad I found it..but Im still looking for an answer to this question

The Polite House: Can I Put a Remodel Project on Our Wedding Registry? Yes, you can use a hinge meant for frameless on a faceframe cabinet. With Framed construction the largest overlay will still leave you with a 1/4" reveal. Perhaps they were better in the past! This jig is about $140.

Adaptable: Framed cabinets adapt well to kitchens that have walls that are not perfectly squared or have uneven sections.

So, thank you so much for being awesome, and also giving awesome-ness lessons . Now that you know the advantages of installing face frame cabinets, youll need to ask yourself the following questions to decide what type of face frame youd like to install. Im really hoping that you can answer my question, though. They seem to work just fine. You may have to look for an adjustable overlay that spans 1/4 to ? Face frame cabinets are sturdier, while frameless cabinets allow for more storage space.

European hinges generally have full, half or adjustable and Faceframe overlay hinges have specific partial Inch measurements. If you are trying to make your face frame cabinets look like Euro boxes, then the standard margins are 4mm+-.

The term 1/2 overlay means that two doors meeting on the same side panel will each cover 1/2 the edge of the panel minus the margin.