Tim Brown never wore gloves! The ball is dead once it crosses the goal line. The spray's use in sport has a sticky history. Is it not a little suspicious that the only ball with a marginal effect under the psi is the ball that was intercepted? They lost go home and learn from that. himself into a bow-knot during the process, the door opened stealthily and Jerry was leveling the playing field. this article is clearly about rice being an enormous hypocrite. They don't use stick em. As for Rice what a hypocrite. All but one were underinflated. As are most former players with a legacy to protect. I assume youve never been to a game in Seattle, where the stadium was designed to accent the crowd noise (fair or not, theres no need for the pumped-in noise that whiner fans keep crying about. . Poor shmuck probably doesnt remember what he had for breakfast let alone his long history of CHEATING, Somebody weld an asterisk to the forehead of Jerrys bust, Moss is the greatest receiver ever, not Captain Steckem. This should be the punishment for any team violation. No one gets out untainted, apparently. Id put some asterisks on his titles. Jerry Rice should have an asterisk next to all his record number of catches in the NFL, stating he cheated when he made all those catches from Joe Montana. Gloves are legal, stickum, when Rice admits to using it, was illegal. Now the world knows that Rice cheated and to be honest I have always thought he was the best wide receiver ever, but now I have to wonder. Who cares. Based on what I remember, this sounds like it was in the era when gloves wee just beginning to come into vogue. If they did then they can be judged. How does this spary work on a Baseball Glove? The record for most interceptions in a single season is held by Night Train Lane, who logged 14 interceptions as a rookie in 1950, while playing for the Los Angeles Rams. Same applies for Moss in comparison to Rice. I usually ignore the former NFL players who complain that the Patriots are cheaters because most of them have an agenda. niners816 says: A lot of teams try to get an edge or cheat. Our experts have done a research to get accurate and detailed answers for you. The use of "grip spray" is commonly associated with former Oakland Raider's star cornerback Lester Hayes. Stickum or these new gloves they wear, what is the difference, nothing!. 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Id take Prime Moss over Prime Rice* ten times out of ten. Shannon Sharpe: outspoken about the Patriots cheating, member of the Broncos teams that won two Super Bowls, teams that violated the salary cap and got caught, Broncos lost draft picks and received a $500,000 fine from the league. Maybe Im picking nits but nowhere in that quote does Rice directly say that he cheated by using stickum. He has abilities that Rice just doesnt have. There is no record of them having ever been checked and as far as I know no official has come forward and said he tested them with a gauge and they were fine before kick off. He has absolutely no integrity or respect for the game of football. He does not belong in the HOF. They replaced all the balls. Deflagate is looking more and more like an opportunity to destabilize the Pats before the superbowl. But now we do know that Rice was an admitted cheater. the show talks about when the ban on stickum happened in the 80s the gloves started to be made. On Saturday, Rice elaborated on his comments in a post on Twitter: I apologize ppl after doing my research about stickum! It was only banned in the 80s and used before that as allowable. I can, also, comprehend, dunce. Brady, Belichick and Kraft are losing ZERO sleep over internet trolls and retired athletes calling them cheaters. Tainted 49ers titles now. All you Pats haters have claimed the tiniest blink by the Pats no matter what is cheating and virtually every one of you has been zero tolerance about it. Hmmm. Stating only one was, when only the degree to which they were is in question, is fallacious. How can we know he didnt put stickum on his gloves EVERY game? That product, known by its brand name, Stickum, was outlawed by the N.F.L. Makes you wonder why his comments on this has not been a bigger story.. Jerry Rice uses Stickum? According to the NY Times, the sticky glove was developed by a Canadian Wide Receiver in 1999. Everybody tries to get an edge, what else is news? And no one cared. Was it against the rules and therefore cheating? Ive been a supporter of Goodall until now because I dont believe anyone else will be any better, but this was just plain stupidity. Some others didnt like it, but they still had the exact same opportunity to enhance their ability to catch. Amazing how some try to cover up facts. By stating All players did it! Rice is claiming he didnt have an advantage, but hes also saying that players were at the very least bending the rules. This is your one-stop encyclopedia that has numerous frequently asked questions answered. Steve Young *. Former San Francisco 49ers wide receiver Jerry Rice speaks after being inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2010. Really? In his early career he dropped a ton of passes, and then all of a sudden he seemed to develop hands like glue? He played for 13 years. Balls normal, balls at half time down air. Why do you hate logic and facts so much? Especially if Rice* is without his precious Stickum. #equalplayingfield.. 2005-2022 CBS INTERACTIVE ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. The gloves have a rubbery grip to them. He looks like hes making up opinions on the fly when in a 2 day span he can tell about how he cheated and then the next day chastise the Pats for cheating. I like that youre hammering the oft overlooked aspect of everybody cheats. I hope you enjoyed watching the Patriots celebrate yet another title down the streets of Boston. Every team in the PED era should get an asterisk, starting in the late 60s/early 70s when steroids were engulfing the NFL. The Patriots titles dont have asterisks next to them. Register now! will somebody PLEASE finally let the Patriot fans in on the joke? but a better grip for the Pats is cheating? If I could choose one WR for one game in their prime, Im taking Randy Moss hands down. Stickum sucks. And Jerry Rice is as big a loud mouth as there is in that group saying the Patriots titles are tainted. Id sooner have Pete Rose in the HOF than this cheater. and easily becomes a hypocrite to defend is records and achievements. Thats just laughable. Since most of the anti Patriot posts have significant thumbs down. Empirebks: he is paid by the NFL, so he cant afford to be wrong. Oh and upon further review there is no foul . Funny thing is, this isnt even the first time hes admitted it, the only difference now is social media and every troll having their own megaphone and every pundit needing to out-click-bait each other for that precious ad money. Now the reason for this post.

(1) There is ZERO evidence that the Patriots deflated any footballs. That way we can avoid all this hoopla. The word Fallacious doesnt mean what you think it means. There is a form of cheatingby players individually, and THEN there is PLANNED cheating by an ORGANIZATIONSPYGATE was a proven, organizational cheating scandal that totally smacks to the integrity of the game. The beauty of this league is based on stuff like deflategatejust keep it in perspective and dont blow it way up. BTW: Hayes didnt break the rule. 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The game cannot be 100% cheat-free because if you called all the fouls, the game would take too long and if you revealed all the things players & coaches did to get an edge, then it would affect the image of the game. The stickiness was 20% sticker than a human hand, which would change the game of football. Physical wear will considerably reduce grip as well. Please try your search again later. The silicone gloves are allowed because they leave no residue on the ball. Unlike the Pats in Spygate where they tried to exploit a lopphole in a poorly worded memo from Goodell, and in Deflategate where latest report is vindicating them (go read Ian Rapports report on SuperBowl Sunday from NFL.com, the NFLs own network)JERRY RICE ADMITTED TO CHEATING, WHICH ALLOWED HIM TO CATCH THE BALL BETTER AND MEANS MONATNA AND HALEYS RINGS ARE ALL TAINTED BECAUSE..just saying POINTBLANK, Jerry Rice is a CHEATER and VERY, VERY, VERY, STUPID. IF YOU AINT CHEATING YOU AINT TRYING. They did not, they inflated the balls up to at least 12.5, but again because NFL did not log any numbers we have no idea how much they inflated and to what PSI. You guys sound foolish. Is Grip Boost legal in NFL, NCAA, high school, and youth competition? ALL 49ers rings with Rice are officially TAINTED! Oakland Raiders cornerback Lester Hayes notoriously had an affinity for Stickum. It doesnt mean the Pats are excused. Rice wash a cheater. So please dont confuse my engaging in an argument over those particulars as giving any weight to the distinction, but that it is as weak as it is irrelevant. Other than that they stopped the colts with their perfectly inflated balls to just 7 points and took it to them the entire game. Rice********************** #glovegate , jerry rice is a douche bag, now it makes me wonder if he was really all that great or was it just those sticky ass gloves. Learn how your comment data is processed. Just fine them and move on. He covered his entire body with the stuff. Just remember something. It remains to be seen if any other receivers or players from the 1980s and 90s come out to support or deny Rices claim that stickum use was rampant during those decades. This means Rice was a cheater. These things have always been happening and quite likely were WORSe in the good old days.. Man this is super weird.Jerry Rice cheated so now the Patriots cheating is ok? Tackified gloves are allowed, though, provided such tacky substance does not adhere to the football or otherwise cause handling problems for players.. Virtually every finger pointer is, in fact, a hypocrite. First, at a press conference last Thursday in Phoenix, NFL vice president of officiating Dean Blandino spilled the beans that the PSI of the 12 Patriots footballs were never recorded by referee Walt Anderson. Put Lester Hayes in the Hall of Fame already. The only ball that was substantially deflated was the ball in the Colts possession (though to be fair that just could be because it was the ball that was used the most thats why its dangerous to speculate). Can I use some on my hands for dunking or can you not put it on your skin? Being self motivated means youre doing it not just for the paycheck, youre doing it out of pride. Whether they should or shouldnt has zero bearing on what the Pats did. And remember, if the bales were inflated to the minimum standards, they could well nave deflated 102 psi when brought out in the weather. Im sure you wont see these stories about Rice and others on ESPN. Sure Sherman is a hell of a player, but Deion was just a freak of nature. When stickum was banned in 1981, they called it the Lester Hayes Rule. Guess Rices & Haleys Rings should all have an * by them too ! Its about winning games and they do whatever they can to win. Blows my mind that this guy would ever call anyone else a cheater and use the word asterisk. Gecko Grip is an Australian owned family business that has been operating for over 40 years. If someone will send a pair to Mark Andrews I'll chip in. Oh sorry, I mis-understood the rule. This is the 5th model and they release every 2 years. 1. I think the NFL should definitely be investigating the Colts if the only ball deflated was the one they had. One of the best football players of all time admits to cheating, laughs about cheating and no one says anything. I found this story on USA TODAY High School Sports and wanted to share it with you: The Patriots 15 year run of success bothers most players because of jealousy. Other teams and players cheating does not absolve your teams actions. The league's uniform code says that adhesive or slippery substances on the body, equipment, or uniform of any player are prohibited. No one remembers. Seriously what happened to the integrity of the game? No who, what, when, where. This better be mentioned in the experts discussion of Montana v. Brady when they bring up PSI!! No surprise that Rice used stickum, loads of players have cheated throughout the years. so they would have won the game anyway. Pdw, you dont seem to realizability that 1 psi under the limit isnt negligible, which means Florio backs up Mort more than he backs up Rapport, right? Funniest thing Ive read in ages. I love Jerry Rice, but that is just as stupid as it comes. Its the opposite with cheating. I tried to warn you guys that if you dig hard enough every great team in the NFL had gamesmanship going on, but your hatred of the Patriots is so intense that you barreled on ahead anyway. Professional athletes will push the envelope to get an edge until the sports draws up rules to govern what they can and cant do. Khuxford you point is correct. Give it up and put the asterisk down. Its another false allegation, just like them videotaping the whole of the Rams walkhrough, but the damage to their reputation is already done. How good would players like Randy Moss or Terrell Owens have been if they used the same glue on their hands that Rice used? There was a much better angle and view of it on the Texas high school replay show that showed how high he was off the ground.. Hes not being himself. It was tremendous stuff. Adhesives like Stickum were banned the next year, in 1981. He doesnt seem to be the sharpest light bulb in the tool shed. Adjusting the air pressure to what a qb likes? Prep Rally is devoted to the SoCal high school sports experience, bringing you scores, stories and a behind-the-scenes look at what makes prep sports so popular. You may occasionally receive promotional content from the Los Angeles Times. Because they suck. Im shocked. This is what is ridiculous, the Patriots have not found to have done anything wrong in the PSI controversy. Next thing youre gonna tell me is that the steelers should have asterisks because those players took greenies?

What Rice accomplished in his great career was probably about 99.99999999999999% talent and work ethic, and the rest belongs to stickum. I see only two differences: (1) that the news media took hold of Spygate because it made for sensational, crime-novel-like storytelling (even had the word spy in it) and (2) people were sick of the Pats winning everything and we love to take winners off the pedestal. Jerry didnt get a competitive advantage against one player a db who probably had more stickum. As a football fan I would really rather not know some of this stuff. It shows how much society has changed with obsessive social media and reporters obsessed with the latest sensational story angle. The guy put glue on his hands. He played with 2 HoF QBs, and a Pro Bowl caliber Rich Gannon for 20 years! Given Rices central role in the 49er offence, and how much more stick-um of an advantage would be than a slightly deflated football, we must put an asterisk by the 49er Super Bowl wins, right? Remember how right Mort was on the Ray Rice incidenthis sources told him Ray was defnding himself, he pushed her and she hit her headMortensen is a joke. Everyone put stickum on their gloves. Enjoy the season. Lets keep playing! The only difference between that one and the others is thats the only one the Colts got their hands on. Rice using stickum, didnt help Montana or Young throw more accurate passes, and it didnt help his teammates catch the ball any better. Don Hutson was a better receiver. Pats with their scandals.. Super Bowl XXIX*. Feb 6, 2015 12:59 PM Wow, this article was pulled off of PFT pretty quick. In a Sports Illustrated poll of NFL players in 2009, he was voted the "dirtiest player in the NFL.". CBS Sports is a registered trademark of CBS Broadcasting Inc. Posted on Nov 26th, 2016, 6:39 AM, , User Since 214 months ago, User Post Count: 1156, Posted on Nov 26th, 2016, 12:58 PM, , User Since 227 months ago, User Post Count: 15230, Posted on Nov 26th, 2016, 1:10 PM, , User Since 214 months ago, User Post Count: 1156, Posted on Nov 26th, 2016, 7:39 PM, , User Since 68 months ago, User Post Count: 24, Posted on Nov 26th, 2016, 7:42 PM, , User Since 142 months ago, User Post Count: 37664, Posted on Nov 27th, 2016, 8:19 AM, , User Since 214 months ago, User Post Count: 1156, Posted on Nov 27th, 2016, 2:13 PM, , User Since 217 months ago, User Post Count: 7017, Posted on Nov 28th, 2016, 10:15 AM, , User Since 224 months ago, User Post Count: 4571, Posted on Nov 28th, 2016, 11:19 AM, , User Since 127 months ago, User Post Count: 1022, Posted on Nov 28th, 2016, 11:34 AM, , User Since 163 months ago, User Post Count: 5804, Posted on Nov 28th, 2016, 11:57 AM, , User Since 224 months ago, User Post Count: 4571, Posted on Nov 28th, 2016, 12:36 PM, , User Since 187 months ago, User Post Count: 4937, Posted on Nov 28th, 2016, 2:43 PM, , User Since 141 months ago, User Post Count: 2782, Locked Topic - No more replies can be posted. He affected the game like no WR ever has or ever will. If you do youre wrong. Hmm! This kid must have a wing span close to 8'. Reapply? Minor surgery is when someone else is having surgery. Everyone needs to stop digging around. GripTec has been designed to be comfortable to use on hands as opposed to some competing products which rely solely on tackiness and can be gluggy and uncomfortable to use. Its not a big deal. Jerry Rice will henceforth be known as Jerry* Rice*. Freakin hypocrite. the commenters that bring it back to the pats cheating are truly pathetic. And this is what bothers me the most about the former players, coaches, and GMs who are vocal about the Patriots issues with cheating. You mention they switched out the balls. IF YOURE NOT CHEATING YOURE NOT TRYING. 2. The gloves Rice used WITH stickum are still less sticky than the gloves current receivers wear out of the box. Watergate, Bountygate, Spygate, Deflategate, Textgate, Noisegate, Stickumgate. Funny that you criticize people for hating facts, yet quote 1 unconfirmed source (that has been refuted) as the truth. Hypocrits.

Remember the DB for the Raiders? Also high school football, defensive pass interference no longer carries the automatic first down either just the 15-yard penalty. defensive holding or pass interference) and the offense scores on the play, the penalty can be enforced on the try or succeeding kickoff. The only people losing sleep are Pats fans who feel its their duty to defend them. You can come up with examples all day of other players or teams cheating but those examples are irrelevant to this situation. But now we have so much media 24-7 constantly looking for these things and making HUGE deals of them that the perception is that there is more of this. FORFEIT YOUR RINGS AND EAT AN ASTERISK!!!! The players do it, the coaches teach it. So, before berating the official at a pee-wee football game for not implementing a 10-second runoff at the end of a half, here are a few notable rule differences between NCAA, NFL, youth and high school football that you should know. You cant convince me the entire NFL doesnt try and get an edge or cheat. Did I get that right? Every team thru the history of the NFL is looking for an advantage and the ones that get caught get punishedas they should. , Something tells me Chris Carter blew up the PFT email box with the clip. Multiple readers (presumably Patriots fans) have sent in recent days to PFT a link to a video published by ESPN on January 17, 2015 regarding the evolution of gloves. Fine the Pats and take a meaningful draft pick. Trevor Bauers accuser says in court filing her allegations were not false, Sparks beat Dream to jump in standings as WNBA playoff race tightens, CIF is unlikely to mirror colleges by loosening transfer rules, Santa Anita to host the 40th Breeders Cup next year, Inside the battle for control of a legendary music club and the soul of a high desert town, How two L.A. COVID swindlers dodged the FBI and joined the European jet set, USC researchers identify symptoms associated with increased risk for long COVID, Coronavirus cases are soaring in L.A. County, but this wave is different, The SoCal housing market is cooling. A Day. . Fans deserve to know Rice is a cheater. No one says Emmitt is the best RB of all time because he ran behind one of the best olines, but everyone says Jerry is the best WR ever hands down completely disregarding the facts above? Deflategate COULD be organizational.that remains to be seen. We can all agree the Pats could have used a beachball to beat the Colts, the fact is they felt they had to cheat to win, and I doubt the two times they were busted, were the only times theyve cheated! I wrote a post on this just three days ago, timing is pretty ironic. Rice entered the league in 1985, four years after stickum was banned by the league. Our team has collected thousands of questions that people keep asking in forums, blogs and in Google questions. Rice new it was illegal t use stickum, NOT A LITTLE BIT ILLEGAL.therefore regardless of how much it helped him, the intent was to cheathe is a cheater..end of story. He admitted after the game he often uses grip spray. Although no amount of analysis on the rampant state of cheating will stop haters from hating, its a start. Not everyone deflates balls (case in point indys conformed). Im not saying he never used it, but in that interview he is talking about what someone else said, not himself. I view Rice as the Sherman of wide receivers and Moss as the Deion. Another HOF cheater coming out of the closet. A lot of teams try to get an edge or cheat. Secondly, NFL Networks Ian Rapoport reported the morning of the Super Bowl that just one of the 11 footballs was 2 PSI under the limit, while the other 10 were just a tick under the 12.5 threshold.