The first pic shows after two strokes on a 1000grit waterstone. 740s were only made from 1930 to 1955. Is it OK to copy projects from the magazine? (1990 second edition.) And I have converted them to a slightly lower 25 Initial angle ( hollow grind) which I prefer for the softwoods and the domestic hardwoods i almost exclusively work ( black cherry, American Walnut, the oaks, ash and the beeches). Get instant access to over 100 digital plans available only to UNLIMITED members. Different steel? Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies.

Wood Chisel Co. Whilst best reasonable efforts aremade to ensure usable items are brought to a good standard, those expectingperfection from a used tools should consider buying new. 750(or 720 or 740), Made in the USA. When Lie Nielson and others copied the 750 style, they did something else; they copied the metallurgy as well.well almost. A hearty "Well-done" to the first authoritative answer. These cookies do not store any personal information. As you see in the catalog above, the 750 line of text was removed and the Stanley logo was added to the face. UNLIMITED Membership is like taking a master class in woodworking for less than $10 a month. please allow 5 10 days for delivery for the UK. Construction: Steel shank, hickory handle more about that later. Any majordefects will be pointed out in the description.

Now it takes up 10 strokes to put a heavy camber and three strokes to raise a burr. and they have the clear coated handle. Prior to selling onlinewe used the web as a buyers for quite some time and although there was a hiccup or two by other sellers we found them all to be helpful when they were made aware, I aim to be the same. These are older chisels and not in "new" or "perfect" condition.Note : These chisels ALL have someones initials stamped into them, I have included one closeup picture showing this but they ALL have initials stamped on the shaft.Accepting Paypal and shipping to U.S. only. Stanley Everlasting Chisel With Sweetheart Trademark, Stanley Everlasting Sweetheart Chisel - 5/8", Stanley 3/4" Sweetheart Everlasting Chisel, Stanley #750 Sweetheart Chisel 1" (nice Condition), 2022 - WorthPoint Corporation | 5 Concourse Parkway NE, Suite 2900. It demonstrates quality but more so they care about the products they make and even though both are mass produced, probably not on the same scale, the Lie Nielsen etching sends a clear message that its made with pride. Get complete site access to video workshops, digital plans library, online archive, and more, plus the print magazine. 750s, according to John Walters -- considered one of, if not the foremost expert on Stanley tools (his book sells routinely for 150 to 250 bucks) -- were "butt" chisels and were 9 and 1/2 to 10 and 1/4 inches long, depending on the width. When you are retired time isnt so important. 0. All refurbished chisels are water cooled during the sharpening process to ensure the tempering is not affected. The handles are both turned from hornbeam, which makes them super strong for mallet blows. One notion is that the D just means they came with clear handles and not polished so that they could offer them for less money (perhaps to trade schools and what not).

If you over do it and the handle shrinks, it will be too loose. We offer good prices and can visit or arrange collection, please send images for consideration. Collectors & Woodworkers. Editor's Letter: Technology and the future of woodworking. Whilst I would like to think im perfect my wife would always say I had perfect intentions and was honest enough to hold my hands up when i get it wrong. As Richard Maguire said I say it as I see it.. Items described as Antiqueor Collectable are not sold for the purpose of use, if the buyer uses them weregard the item as sold or intends to use them it is their responsibility foradditional costs to upgrade. Using a very sharp chisel as a scraper simply scrape off the graphite marks. The bevel were ground at 30 out of the box. I would like to hear from some folks who are though. I think of the 740's as bench or cabinet chisels. Plus tips, advice, and special offers from Fine Woodworking. The SW stood for Stanley Works, but the logo became known as the sweatheart logo. I think its highly unlikely, but the edge would suffer the same as the LN did. They are marked in 3 lines on the socket like the 750, the difference being there is a "D" in place of the "no.

I think its a nicer look being laser etched than printed. I have chopped some Australian tough woods with my LN 3/4 and ruined the edge because the wood was so tough. If this item contains incorrect or inappropriate information please, Relevant This allows for expansion and contraction of the wood. Part of leather washer cap on handle worn.

The last number of years of their being manufactured, only 750s and 720s were made, but had only two lines, leaving the No. I am trying to put together a set of Stanley 720 chisels. The 720, 740 and 750 chisels are series that vary by length going from the longest to the shortest respectively.

Change). The handles of all three models were hickory. Im a simple guy. Uses: General purpose chisels The LN chisel truly comes flat, you can jump to a 4000 grit stone and finish on an 8000 grit and you will get and even mirror polish the entire length of the blade if you wanted to. The chisel has been checked to ensure the tang is seated properly and the handle is solid and fit for use. The steel on the SW has a slightly rougher finish compared to the LN. The LN chisel below resembles a Japanese chisel in terms of a short blade and longer body. Tooltique was originally started in the late 70s selling quality reconditioned used tools and Antique Tools to the public and once had a physical shop many came to visit here in Norwich. I have a lovely old 1/2" 740 (minus handle) that I recently cleaned- and tuned-up, and I've wondered about the purpose of that shape. Chisel, c.1935-1940 ~ Stanley Chisels - Set of 3 ~Extremely The 720's are firmer length with the 750's being butt chisels. Articles. One of them appears to have more wear than the rest as it is ground down more (see pictures). I could if I wanted to set my bevel angle to 18 and it would slice through the end grain like butter and I may end up doing just that, or not, I dont know, Im just too God damn lazy. LN is way heavier and looks like a stamp to me. I am no expert at all but thought it might add some info. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website.

Another thing you said that was Incorrect was that you implied that the 720, 740, 750 chisels came with a sweetheart logo on them, they never did, only the Everlasting Chisels had the sweetheart logo on them for a few years during the "sweetheart" era, which Stanley never called it that, the SW is the owner of the times initials, and the marking with the SW and heart was to remember him as he passed away, so for about a decade stanley marked their planes and chisels and just about everything with SW and the heart. Rabbeting a shelf; Strength vs. appearance, Editor's Letter: A new tool with every project. As far as I can tell, the steel in all is the same, although some folks tout the ones with the "sweetheart logo". I only have one of a the original five left after 50 years. What is the difference between the 720, 740 and 750 chisels? This is a set of 9 chisels as pictured with case. These old cast steel chisels are hand forged and far superior in quality because of the high carbon steel that was used which produces a keener edge, this was also generally used throughout the full length. http://users.ev1.net/~gmuster/TypeStudy/everlastchisels.htm. The steels however are different. 750" in the middle line.

Vintage 11/16" J. Used tools arenot perfect and may have minor flaws due to wear and tear. O/W. Stanley called the 740 a pocket chisel and the 750 a butt chisel. I ordered a new Stanley Sweetheart Socket 750 1 1/4 to replace my Vintage Marples 1 1/4. 1930 to 1955 I then lacquer the peg lightly.

This wasnt meant to be an in depth review because I dont want to market anyones product for them. Our website is stocked with a new range of Antique and reconditioned Vintage Tools every week so dont miss out. Do you have any vintage or Antique old tools for sale that you feel would be suitable for our website? Looking specific hand tool that isn't listed in our website? Read more<< about us>>. Click for full details. They make the SW from a high carbon with Alloy mixed while the LN comes in only one flavour my most hated A2. What works for me is to use dry graphite powder (you can find it at the key making counter at hardware stores). Commenting has been disabled. Tools

I use a sharpening guide and have been sharpening for 5 years now with diamond stones. 750/720 line off. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. If you are going to use them, I think it comes down to personal preference. My 3/4 SW is about 3 3/4, so its really halfway between. Can anyone help with info on what sizes were made and markings, patent dates, pictures etc. I bought a set in about 2012 to replace my original 750s that were wrecked by time and borrowing or decided to go on walkabout.

(LogOut/ We sell collectable and old usabletools that are lightly cleaned before being offered for sale. Lie Nielson uses A2 tool steel which is around 0.25% V whereas the old stanley 750 is reported to have 3.0% V, This forum post is now archived. Postage: As you can appreciate there is a lot of work needed to bring these tools back to life as a result I do get quite dirty when working in the workshop. I forgot to mention that the steel is made in England and Im guessing Sheffield but dont quote me. Better control? The etching on the SW is laser printed while the LN is laser etched. These old cast steel chisels are hand forged and far superior in quality because of the high carbon steel that was used which produces a keener edge, this was also generally used throughout the full length. If in doubt please ask as we are more than happy to help. ok, now you know everything I know about 7 series chisels. Both these pics above show the back of the Stanley SW.

Although I did not ask the question, I often wondered what the different Stanley number designations meant also. The following info is from it, and should take care of some of your questions. I believe these are in every way as good as the 750 line. We have more tools here in stock awaiting preparation and photography. The Atlanta, Georgia 30328 | 877.481.5750. UNLIMITED membership - Get access to it all. Sorry this product has sold, however there may be another in our website as we sell items individually. 720s being thelongest. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google. Hi, newcomer here resurrecting an old thread, I have just bought 3 Stanley 750 chisels on ebay and they have the Stanley logo on the front of the blade contrary to jimmythings post above. I do have water tones and such for in the shop. This allows the 750 to sharpen well and retain it's edge longer. The truth and facts surrounding old hand tools, The Carbon footprint of imported New Tools, Last minute Gift. Choose Category In-depth articles, up-close photography, and detailed illustrations. One other thing.

I think the 740's have the best balance but think the 720's are cool because of their length. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. I can find very little about them on the web. & NON-STANLEY EVERLASTING CHISELS. well the comment about the 750, 740, 720 being firmer, butt, and bench size is incorrect, the 750 is a cabinet or bevel chisel, nut a butt chisel, and the length of the 740 is not longer than the 750, i have both, of the samwe size in NOS condition and the 750's are by NO MEANS a "butt chisel". Let it dry, insert it into the socket, hold the shank and give the chisel handle a couple of good firm whacks with a carver's mallet and voila! I took my Lie Nielsen 3/4 as its the largest LN chisel I have and did a side-by-side comparison. Is it a place to tuck a finger under the blade? Average Price: $5 to $10 (Those are the 1990 prices. The No.25, 45 & 55 Square edge models came later. These also have the oak red handle with the leather ring on the top. (LogOut/ How can one justify that expense? Now if I can Just find some leather trimmed hickory handles. The wax isnt cheap, but neither is this craft so do yourself a favour and give it a go.

Which do people prefer? I don't know if there are more current editions around. 720: These are the exact same marking wise as the 750's, except they are marked 720 in the place of the 750 obviously, they also have no marking on the blade. Make a small mark on the upper part of the handle lightlywith a pencil so you can align it with the top of the chisel each time you put the handle in. And, that is consistent with John Walters' info. So, a longer chisel (a 720) without the number on it, when used and sharpened a lot could be as short as a 750 and no one would know whether it was orginally a 720 length or 750 length. Our biweekly podcast allows editors, authors, and special guests to answer your woodworking questions and connect with the online woodworking community. Theyre not expensive compared to LN. Start your 14-day FREE trial - and get building. Compared to the blades in the hardware stores, these are pretty much flat. Everlasting No.40 - 1/4"" Bevel ), 740 Older ones were marked on the socket with the following3 lines, Stanley, No. for other people like myself looking for information to see the catalogue showing the logo on the blades. 740s, according to Walters, were known as "pocket" chisels and were 12 to 12 and 1/2 inches long depending on width. Become an UNLIMITED member and get it all: searchable online archive of every issue, how-to videos, Complete Illustrated Guide to Woodworking digital series, print magazine, e-newsletter, and more. It solved the problem. If you know where can you let me know. Christopher Schwarz did a review some years ago when he worked for popular woodworking and I will provide a link here for you to read. It then takes me between 50 to 100 strokes to raise a burr.

Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. I gave it a coat of Renaissance wax like I do to all my tools to keep the rust off it. First off , you should be aware that a 3 2/4 blade, my 3/4 750 SW is about 13/16 shorter than the 1 1/4 chisel, so the difference might just be a matter of size, rather than brand. So if on the rare occasion I do get it wrong its not intentional and i will do my utmost to put it right for you. (LogOut/ 720 Socket Chisel Published by The Tool Merchant. I actually prefer the socket design, as I believe they are more comfortable, to me the everlasting's "feel" more like "butt chisels" than the 750's or and of the 7 series. When I re-hilted an old Witherby chisel, I measured the depth of the socket, then the diameter of the bottom, the diameter of the top and turned to those specs plus a scosh on my lathe. 750, Made In USA. The the stamp/etch on the originals wasnt all that deep, btw. Manufactured: 1930 to 1969 Send a Tooltique Gift Card.

Stanley Sweetheart 750 Chisels Initial Prep How Much? Being thinner could be an advantage to dovetailing. The pic below is a mirror finish, but the camera didnt do an outstanding job in displaying it, or maybe its my poor camera skills. To the collector however, the 750 marking is essential, hence the huge difference in price. Its amazing how well this stuff works. Thanks for your input. This will make a small, fine wood shaving each time. We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. Start your 14-day FREE trial - and get building! They seem to hold up well, and I have a couple firmer chisels for heavier work. Here is one excellent link I found.

The metal capped ones are called everlast or everlasting and have a nice fusiform tapered handle. I think once you tune them up a bit they will perform well for you. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. It makes me think that I were cleaning out a groove or dado with the chisel flat to the surface of the wood and reached all the way to the socket, this curve would lift the rear of the chisel upward and - presumably - lever the edge into the wood. I do have to allocate a whole day to postage as a different operation because of this so I pack all orders every Monday and order the collection from Hermes which generally takes 1-2 days to collect. I bought this locally, so this is in Australian dollars. Vintage Old Tools & Usable Antiques website Norwich. New 740s were/are indeed longer than 750s. and are not made of inferior steel like the "defiance" this is argued among woodworkers though, but most people who know what there saying think the same as I do, and that is that these, no matter what the "D" means, are just as good as 750's and are made of good steel. So depending on what day you order it will vary the delivery time. A2 doesnt sharpen well on diamond stones unless you start with XX coarse. It is my opinion that this coincides with a change in metallurgy; namely vanadium. Edge Cabinet Will a 20 degree angle hold up to paring in hardwoods (maple, walnut, and cherry), or should I go with a 25degree on the old chisels? Theyre both sockets, which can be a plus or minus depending on the user. They have the Oak red lacquer handle. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkcdse9tlPmtppQTMyVAmgg, https://www.tiktok.com/@thelostscrollsofhandwork?lang=en. New customers can expect a high level of integrity, honesty, professionalism and knowledge that comes with many years of experience. They used to give you an option between A2 or O1, but I didnt know any better in those days and fell for the advertising bullshit of A2 being a better quality steel thats easy to sharpen and stays sharper longer. The only steel Ive found that sharpens as good as an O1 and stays sharper longer is the PMV11. 1930 to 1969 I have enough of all three which show that to be true. Rest assured that 50-100 strokes is quite good. and continued manufacture the No.40 and 50 models and added the longer No.20

I cant say for sure. In 1968 the price of vanadium shot up and caused toolmakers to question the need to add vanadium or to add it in lesser quantities. I stop when only about an eighth to a quarter of an inch is left on the tapered peg. patented the Everlasting Chisel design which Stanley purchased about 1900 Says "butt chisel" on the box. The main difference is that they are longer, and are Paring Chisels. Stanley Defiance No.1221-1251 Bevel Edge Your credit card or PayPal account will be charged. All items are sold in an as iscondition and have not been tested; some reconditioning may be required accordingto buyers standards which can vary wildly. You can see that the SW is considerably longer, which took me by surprise as I thought LN tools were replicas of Stanleys earlier tools pre 1940s. Gently scrapethe ring smoothas well and you will see the handle beginning to seat into the socket. I think I can get a sharper edge with O1, but maybe its just that Im not patient enough with A2. I found another way to fit the handles to the sockets that I really like since I am not a very good lather. 720s, according to Walters, were known as "firmer" chisels and were 13 to 15 inches long. Im more inclined to believe that an A2 blade will sharpen very quickly on a DMT Diamond stone even though I havent tried it but its just a gut feeling. Refer to the pictures as to what I am referring to. G.E. I do not believe the 7 series was ever sold with clear coated handles, but I may be wrong. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account.

It has a vaguely trigger-like shape, but what would be the advantage? Enter now for your chance to win more than $2,000 worth of woodworking equipment from Woodpeckers. Thanks.. Corrections to previous posters info about 750 chisels The backs are flat, but the hickory handles are finished with clear lacquer, Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. O1 will take a sharper edge than will A2 and you cannot sharpen A2 with an oil stone. 740: These Look exactly like the 750, but are marked differently, the have the Stanley logo with the rectangle around the word stanley stamped on the blade about 1/4 of the way toward the tip (on the top 1/4 of the blade) and them have just "Made in USA" stamped on the socket in the place where all the markings are on the 750's (the 750's have no stanley logo on the blade at all".