<< /Filter /FlateDecode /Length 1722 >> The thinking on banning ribes is slowly changing in many states. 0000022224 00000 n These bans are simply ill conceived vendettas against domesticated ribes and accomplishes zip in light of the fact that wild ribes and other hosts are growing in the nearby fields and often in the shade of healthy white pines!!! 0000001076 00000 n 0000018404 00000 n 0000097475 00000 n 0000018673 00000 n Hi Liz, I live a little closer to you in RI. 0000065931 00000 n cultivars. I believe the only legal way to obtain them is by permit. @~-,M[ cuXk 6vR Youve answered that question very clearly. 0000025461 00000 n I also have lots of wild ribes and I have seen some damage but it does not wipe out all the young pines. %%EOF 0000043744 00000 n 124 0 obj <> endobj xref 124 39 0000000016 00000 n 0000019080 00000 n 0000017592 00000 n 0000095597 00000 n 0000097606 00000 n HTPn0Stmm @tW$S-J;R! << /Metadata 250 0 R /Names 251 0 R /PageLabels 248 0 R /Pages 174 0 R /Type /Catalog >> 0000006891 00000 n The threat is greatly overstated and a disservice to farmers here. hn0@EC ( 0000021242 00000 n 0000004541 00000 n {64;IRiMH~w}G'W.:$0Am#7f3bQwAO _?/.y@ =)X74#j jxOgZ$u Mff5mv:RVm!O.R'~/!? 0000019894 00000 n Our lots are small too, so while I would be about 200ft at least from one neighbors tree, the other one is more like 50ft away from where I considered growing them. 0000025898 00000 n f^AaP"N>qFH$HR(qT@ 8 0000024763 00000 n federal prohibition against growing them. A requirement might be that you are nowhere near white pines. Only the black currants are susceptible and many of them are resistant. 0000015859 00000 n }9otyel eI:b7yi.e59k`?G0k\]c~{YGLhDdm8`>s]_bw7Yp?4G? }02UV+r*je8fzq ~ ETf(2,[Bk(U@ 0000003785 00000 n 0000050567 00000 n In Maine there is the rust problem but does it come from domesticated ribes or the wild. 0000017863 00000 n The countless millions of wild gooseberries all over is likely the big culprit. Im in Massachusetts and I believe there was a restriction from growing them near Pines because of White Pine Blister Rust. 0000002317 00000 n I even grow them in the yard nest to the red currents and no problems. 0000008027 00000 n When I first began growing them the thinking was that the ban didnt stop the species from thriving in the wild and was therefore pointless and that the link was highly exaggerated. 0000002276 00000 n You can check your local extension office on how to obtain one, and tell any nursery you have a permit. 0000079636 00000 n

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xref 0000019623 00000 n 0000022044 00000 n I have hundreds of very large and very small white pines. 0000020164 00000 n 258 0 obj Theres really not much left of the tree. I thought I read somewhere that its no longer restricted but Im not sure. 0000097534 00000 n I would not be concerned about growing currants anywhere, if you can get them, do so. 0000072419 00000 n https://extension.umass.edu/fruitadvisor/ne-small-fruit-management-guide/currants-and-gooseberries. 0000024261 00000 n 0000018269 00000 n !JO5Pe&tSxjv=W4Uym0IDs8;bo,Y~8#\(4-8#X%4]G8gyIhbtM$*I8_l. 0000044893 00000 n vBA&;X|5vG4W7@2gwYdm%&U:@O1r![K+` h} %i2/21vEu7gS=Hu"d*g!Mz&mDf.&P)hBCGM%Ot]r4'%Ox&4S'HOl 'S/0}I 'DI=uE81J )b*%6GeNF)~p;}jK igV'%ff7Yl2lrULpnrI7qmn\KGD.S_kX^k)iMt]>UeE.#[ Ry?zm6 _i"-gKb0Gf;b%B5:NZ*\5]Cru|5\ 6.ML9x[]y(!u|,/ar:N`#V5 Gp}S1 BWoJ7T~xQ^J#% Z{@JC Ci(,JG5k|Hg$c?'),_#UI*%b T))-/}'"CsNV6wtpbSM+^ AJ[$};"[Mlunj1*"8&uk8)fFezR8kwjD4BH$IK,UX)Q>8^. 0000064388 00000 n 0000017998 00000 n 0000007639 00000 n If you do ask, let us know what they say. Very informative. Too bad. Resistance among white pines is growing every year. xT]hSw?4M#Kh#|ua$-Vm6{DIerN They only sell, red, white and pink varieites now. Chestnut, 0000003961 00000 n 255 0 obj 0000017051 00000 n What a shame our Forest Service has come out with and maintained this backward thinking policy!!! 0000018945 00000 n 0000021774 00000 n Su@n^^ snajQ6;Z`d|WAs bAr#ADmu;v{;;LMoV,TegP _ endstream endobj 614 0 obj <>stream 0000009022 00000 n %PDF-1.4 0000022844 00000 n startxref 0000021373 00000 n http://noursefarms.com/category/currant-plants/, Its important to note that there are virtually no cultivars of any ribes that can be considered immune. 0000019758 00000 n SH@ r2* e"bYQ2s-U%,mg O_z;%i;xat{;LKyEKQc3?v << /Filter /FlateDecode /S 296 /Length 472 >> H|SM0WV,M,[PJl:r5YJVF&e 9K,Y {c4Zea6 https://extension.umd.edu/growit/fruit-profiles/getting-started-small-fruit, Currants, gooseberries, and Jostaberry (a cross between black currant Replaced it with a Rovada red this spring. 0000024056 00000 n Apparently that is not the current thinking. Red and white currants are all resistant to this disease., edit: Of course it could be in error: 0000006032 00000 n 0000017187 00000 n Drew, thanks very much. I agree bberry, you are spot on correct. << /Filter /Standard /Length 128 /O /P -1340 /R 3 /U <092e52d37e18d2fb0a812e1adcc7c7d800000000000000000000000000000000> /V 2 >> 0000032210 00000 n 0000022709 00000 n My opinion is possibly both. 0000057326 00000 n 0000018539 00000 n I just wanted to be legal. 0000036046 00000 n I first ordered black currants about 25 years ago in NY State.

endobj Can someone help me figure out if its okay for me to grow currants near my neighbors pine trees? 0000045707 00000 n 0000028695 00000 n 260 0 obj 254 0 obj 0000019351 00000 n And, your plants will likely add to the spore count of wpbr. I will probably just skip them, since that is the case. It is really not a simple issue, as much as I wish it were. 0000020836 00000 n 0000007415 00000 n A very failed experiment noting that there is evidence that at least 2 other plants host the disease. Never checked on the specific legality and have been growing them next to white pines all that time as well. 0000019487 00000 n Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, Center for Agriculture, Food and the Environment, http://www.twisted-tree.net/articles-links/white-pine-blister-rust-and-ribes/, https://extension.umass.edu/fruitadvisor/ne-small-fruit-management-guide/currants-and-gooseberries. 0000002850 00000 n I have rust resistant varieties of black currant as well. It has been shown to use many immune and resistant cultivars of black, red, and white currants, as well as many gooseberries as hosts. The truth is, there are wild ribes everywhere. Chestnut, thats a very well constructed and interesting article. 253 77 I am near White Pines and I may as well just put my efforts elsewhere. 0000046197 00000 n 0000023636 00000 n n"Hm_:Fsow@:d > endstream endobj 125 0 obj<>/Metadata 122 0 R/Pages 117 0 R/PageLayout/SinglePage/OpenAction[126 0 R/FitBH 697.323]/Type/Catalog/PageLabels 115 0 R>> endobj 126 0 obj<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB/ImageC/ImageI]/Properties<>>>/ExtGState<>>>/Type/Page>> endobj 127 0 obj<> endobj 128 0 obj<> endobj 129 0 obj<> endobj 130 0 obj<> endobj 131 0 obj<> endobj 132 0 obj<> endobj 133 0 obj<> endobj 134 0 obj<> endobj 135 0 obj<>stream endobj 0000008360 00000 n stream 0000027934 00000 n As most of you know Maine is known as the Pine Tree State. 0000020700 00000 n 0000003581 00000 n P 2'= ~7`v\. Raintree will not ship to you without permit, Indiana Berry wont ship to you at all, but maybe if you presented a permit they would. Banning farmers and hobbyists from having the domesticated ribes is a disservice to the public and has solved nothing in the state of Maine. 0000045229 00000 n trailer << /Info 252 0 R /Root 254 0 R /Size 330 /Prev 935860 /ID [<4bd9259fbd28f4e4271ba6d03f696b46><87508d72e86c37d1846eb5d795f32e71>] /Encrypt 256 0 R >> 259 0 obj Is it that they are currently legal in Maryland? 0000008722 00000 n

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