Thanks for your advice guys! Right now, I am using my Breedlove Stage dread (all solid tone woods, spruce top, EI rosewood back and sides).

Look at the website for Stay Gold Guitars in Sante Fe. You must log in or register to reply here. . But, it would need power (does have a batt compartment) and it would not do any EQ.so.I wonder if the selections would be enough?

All I need is an Ovation Applause, sounds incredible. You could buy an Aura pedal and be done. Why is Creed don't have wide appeal to rock n roll fans like Nirvana. . The Fishman Isys+ preamp has the piezo pickup soldered to the motherboard, no plugin, so changing the pickup will not work. That Harmony sounds magnificent. IMHO, an EQ that clips to his/her belt is probably the best option and certainly preferable (not to mention even cheaper) to replacing the pickup in his/her guitar.

Unplugged, it has some real rich sounding bass.

I replaced it with a K&K in an Epiphone. A different or "better" preamp won't help much if at all. You cannot paste images directly. I have a sonitone in my Guild 12 string, as long as you have some way of shaping the tone, like an EQ, it's usable. I only have one acoustic with a Fishman blender pick up a system in it. Really feels good to play. Aftermarket preamps come with a piece of double sticky tape on the part that contacts the wood next to the sound hole - I would assume that factory versions do also but I'm not totally sure. Here are three possibilities: First, the Baggs GigPro has separate bass and treble controls: https://www.amazon.com/LR-Baggs-Belt/dp/B001E95KEW $99. It most likely is a Fishman, which was and is Martin's "go-to" pickup brand - the original "Thinline" undersaddle models are silver IIRC, and the "upgraded" model was the Thinline Gold, which is (you guessed it) gold. By Thanks Kissing. If none of this works, go to Radio Shack and buy: Thanks, ricdoug. From the little I've gathered while researching acoustics, some pickups are mounted under the bridge and might require removal of the bridge to replace. In fact, I've had sound engineers comment as to how good it sounds. Yep, strings were almost off, even tried forceps to pull out the saddle, nada. The LR Baggs Lyric system sounds as though it would transform the plugged in sound entirely. Thought maybe someone here might have some experience with them or maybe experience with piezo pickups or Fishman under-saddle pickups. I would essentially leave the fishman control in, take all the guts out, replace with the LR Baggs system and put the LR Baggs control on the other side of the sound hole. Try a Martin or Acoustic focused forum. That might be OK, since I love the unamplified tone. The only issue with this would be that there is no eq at all, thought there is a presence setting.

A couple guys over on the AGF replaced the Sonitone element and had good results. I don't know about the Sonicor but at least some models of the Matrix (and I believe Infinity) have some of the electronics in a little cylindrical part of the inside of the jack - the last one I installed only had the volume, tone and phase switch at the soundhole.

I like the guitar a lot. If they don't have em in stock they can order them and send it to a local GC. Strat Talk is the leading online community and marketplace for Stratocaster guitars. Did you tin the wires? The first thing I did was change the strings to the type I like best.

It can get it to where I am more satisfied. You must log in or register to reply here. Sounds great! Next, the K&K Pure Preamp has bass, mid, and treble: https://www.amazon.com/K-Sound-KK901ct_top?ie=UTF8 Also $99. Hi folks, this is my first posting since joining the forum. If you really like your DRS2 and don't want to use a stompbox you may have to simply live with the plugged in sound. Undersaddle pickups have a reputation for being a little quacky or brittle or overly crisp-sounding - the guitars I have with undersaddle pickups installed are usually played through an external Fishman Aura pedal, whose electronic wizardry (an "image" file derived from that guitar make/model being played into a microphone) takes out the quack and maps a more natural microphone-like sound in its place. Did what the guide said, still has problems. Any Rancher users here? How is it different from Fishman's many other UST systems? Hmmm.really is sounding as though I put in a new preampor nothing]. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART: you will need a new saddle which is approximately 2.5mm taller than the old one in order to save the pickup if you want to re install it at some point. The venue does set up with a music stand that you could use to put one on. Here's a followup on my member introduction story about swapping out the preamp in my Lanikai LQA-TCA tenor uke. Will have to see. The American (or Australian) made stuff because I'm a snob. The rebuilt guitars they sell are in your price range and offer a much better sounding guitar than any Taylor or Breedlove for the same money.

I received the new Isys+ preamp yesterday and installed it. It's not bad.just a typical low end UST pickup.

There is a discussion at one of the lutherie forums on best methods of amplifying a classical guitar (many folks are recommending the K&K with an external preamp) but one that popped up that is kind of interesting is this guy, https://www.ikmultimedia.com/productacousticstage/. I also made a brass saddle for mine and really like what it did for the guitar, gave it more unplugged volume and added a bit of deeper tone. However if you are considering a Fishman pickup I would sure look into the ones with the little internal mic - blending that with the piezo seems to give a pretty realistic sound. Might be something for your local luthier to handle.

It makes your guitar sound like your guitar, just better. Seems like an uneven pressure problem. Might decide in a week or two.

It may not display this or other websites correctly. The words Fender, Telecaster, Stratocaster and the associated headstock designs are registered trademarks of the Fender Musical Instruments Corporation. (Yes, I do get very verbose. I will try the cheap 5 band EQ more and let you know. 4. The only issue with an external EQ pedal is that it is one more thing. Could not replace it.]. That took care of it. The main problem with the Sonicore is that the tone knob does very little.

[btw, Freeman, you may recall that you helped me tremendously, in correcting the awful set up of my DRS2. The reviews I've seen of the LR Baggs Lyric have been positive.

I'm not brave enough to freight an acoustic to Australia though. Please pardon me for being a bit harsh, but it sounds to me like you really screwed it up. Better preamps and very good sounds. Hopefully I can set it up better as Tinman did! Powered by Invision Community, . Also, check the connections at the end pin jack. bruzanhd,

It is very helpful.

On my mandolin, I use this. And it appears as though the Sonicore electronics also clip to this mount. But it is more work to get a decent tone dialed in. Looks like I have to get the soldering gun out, or maybe just take it to my luthier. I wasn't talking about an EQ pedal but rather a small, discrete device that clips on your belt. https://www.amazon.com/LR-Baggs-Belt/dp/B001E95KEW, https://www.amazon.com/K-Sound-KK901ct_top?ie=UTF8, https://www.amazon.com/Fishman-Plati/dp/B00KVWKF7U. Any GC will have both in stock, go with the Fishman, but try them both out. Someone got a great buy. 1995-2019 Harmony Central, Inc. All rights reserved. A cheap, 5 band EQ does not do much to improve the sound of a good acoustic guitar. Ill just weigh in to say I have not liked the Sonitone at all. Good excuse to visit Santa Fe again. My initial thoughts are that it makes it better, certainly useablebut.it still has that piezo sound. I literally heard more of the guitar with the grooved saddle. The headstock is beautiful. Depending on the model, you'll spend $200 or so for the Aura Sixteen on up to $350 for the Spectrum DI. An external EQ that I could clip to a belt might be OK. Takamine and Taylor both do a good job making guitars that sound "acoustic" when amplified. Some folks hereabouts like the K&K Pure Western and JJB Prestige pickups. You can use a belt clip preamp/EQ, plug your guitar in to it and then plug in to the Belt clip unit when you go on stage. That "quack" effect you're hearing comes from the undersaddle transducer and the preamp can't really help. Exactly 1/2 the price of a D28 and beautifully made. Thanks again! It came with 12 Daddarios, switched to 11 Daddario flat wounds. I have a Martin X-series (beater) guitar that I loveand it has the MX. Privacy Policy |

After all was said and done, I decided to forget trying to fix my blunder, so I ordered another Fishman Isys+ preamp system. http://www.radioshack.com/product/iSession=1&filterName=Type&filterValue=Buzzers. I've been using Fishman under saddle piezos for years.

It is essentially a mic system.

You will need to find a nail or thin rod of some kind to put in the hole that is in the endpin jack while you loosen it with a wrench or pliers. 1. Part of the disappointment shared by me and others is some of the guitars it's planted in, like my Martin GPRS1, sound amazing acoustically, so it's a letdown when the Sonitone doesn't deliver. Thanks for having me. The control unit with the volume and tone control will come off easily if you gently pry on it. There are small wire guides adhered to the underside of the guitars sound board, these will come off with some finesse, but may leave some residue. I've got a 2005 Rancher with a factory installed Fishman Prefix System-- been gigging with it every month for years with nary a problem. Hmmmmmmsothat would be really getting into it. The usual process when installing an undersaddle pickup is to make sure your saddle slot and saddle bottom surface are perfectly flat and perpendicular to the side of the saddle and saddle slot respectively. Removing an undersaddle pickup will cause your current saddle to probably sit too low in the saddle slot, so you would need to replace the saddle (or shim it) if you switched pickup types. Both are stiff flat strips with their cable extending at a right angle from one end which goes down through a small hole at one end of the saddle slot drilled through the bridge and top and bridgeplate to emerge inside the guitar and go off to the endpin jack. You are using an out of date browser. (I did swap out the preamp on my Eddy Finn with one of those off brand, and it works perfectly.). I do have other guitars to use for open mics. Looking to augment sonicore factory installed system on my prs tx20 acoustic to create a dual source stereo output signaldoes fishman have an upgrade kit to do that? The bass E string is louder than the other strings and seems a bit micro phonic (not good for a finger picker with his wrist resting on the strings). You need an account to post a reply.

I know that many of you have probably spent much more time with it than I have, and wanted to see what its possible draw backs are. Personally I have worked on quite a lot of lower-end guitars equipped with the Sonitone unit and always found it sounding pretty abysmal, bordering on the unusable. Could make a wonderful guitar perfect for playing out. How do the quotes above lead you to the quote below? Your best bet is probably a different pickup, such as the Baggs Lyric you mentioned. Without any outboard help, I hate the Sonitone, sounding cheap and non-acoustic to my ears. Thank you Gearspace.com members for 20 years! I did have an issue with an under saddle pickup. Alternatively, is there some recommended way to get that mount off, without damaging or disturbing the wood? If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I'm coming to the conclusion it's what you're saying. Upload or insert images from URL. I appreciate the help and conversation.it helps a lot to be able to converse and reorient thinking.

If you simply cut the wires and re install the jack you may notice a light rattle or buzz when playing or shaking the guitar, this is because the jack has parts that can rattle. More stuff, more money, needs power.worth it over a new preamp? Could probably use the Fishman battery compartment for the Baggs. I can use an all metal pedal board connector to connect it directly to the output jack on the guitar, and then plug into that. The venue I play most is small, simple, jump up and play. Its quacky, its sizzly, its an ode to 1990s Takamines and Ovations electronicsbut with the right EQ it doesnt sound half bad! I want the Martin to have a more acoustic plugged in sound. Then put everything back together and it was all good. Initially, when I started this, I thought an EQ would be the answer.now..I am very intrigued to get a mic on this guitar and bring its natural sound out. Don't want no lemons - orange O.K.! The AD-2 helps with piezo quack at 12 0 clock and below. . A traditional "tone" control simply rolls off the high end. If its like the crap B-Band uses it should fall off. In my opinion its the best of the USTs. I'm going to twist them real tight, then use the shrink tubing to keep them tight. Great guitar. One issue may be that the sound hole mounted Sonicore preamp is glued to the top wood. Click here to login, The ability to reply to and create new discussions, Access to members-only giveaways & competitions, Interact with VIP industry experts in our guest Q&As, Access to members-only sub forum discussions, Get INSTANT ACCESS to the world's best private pro audio, Promote your eBay auctions and Reverb.com listings for free.