How tiring. Thank you to @funknowndies for catching this error! Karissa is a prolific Instagrammer with ~45,000 followers.

I have been predicting that Chelsy is pregnant for over a month now. There have been a lot of changes around here, lately! There is a woman sitting with Chelsy, Allison and Rebecca. The Keilen Family is notable for having several big families in its treetheyre Catholicbut none with 19 Children. How can anyone raise their sons to be smug little know it alls and be happy about it?! Weirdly enough, this isnt the first time this has happened2 Bontragers (Carson and Josh) married Bowers Sisters (Carolina and Cassidy) back in September 2017. I can't keep up. Hannah, ~22, is the daughter of LaCount + Maria Reber (Joshs Custodians). Who? Did anyone miss a deadline in the last few months? With the exception of Chelsys, all Bontrager Engagements were announced Same Day or 1 Day Later. By Because its the truth.

What if we arent religious? (None of these couples actually married; however, I will factor in their Engagement Length if their Intended Wedding Date was known.). In half the pics someone grimaces, or the lighting or angle is odd, or there's a lens glare, or whatever. If Denver + Praise are exactlytypical, theyd marry after 105 Days. PostLoss Spacing After a loss (Miscarriage or Stillbirth, not an Infant / Child Death), a couples next Child Spacing is set at the Average PostLoss Spacing, taken from the Overall Datai.e., all families, rather than family specific, due to sample size issues. On the Approximate Courtposal Date (September 16, 2019), Allison was Age 25.34 and Jeremiah was Age 23.37. (Chelsy married a Maxwell, and theyre weirdly secretive about relationships.) But I would never just drop whatever Im doing to be with him. Courtney + Chris Rogers failed to announce Pregnancy #12 on May 19 (On Time), June 23 (0.5 SD Late), or July 27, 2021 (1 SD Late). I am curious if the speech of the dads is going to be topped by them since the previous wedding. 112621 Denver + Praise (Helferich) Bontrager announce Pregnancy #1. Derp! Honestly, I just find her so annoying, I cant handle following her Instagram anymore. 2019).

Esther (Keller) + John Shrader didnt reveal Pregnancy #13 on May 21 (+0.5 SD) or July 10, 2021 (+1 SD). It's actually a real miracle if there were no covid infections at the wedding! Im am currently single, dated the same person for five years and we lived together for three. His smile is just a know it all smile that bugs me. 121121 David Keller marries Hannah Reber. ), 083021 Esther (Keller) + John Shrader announce Pregnancy #13. Currently, the critical values it uses are set, as follows. Hopefully their relationship is still strong. So Jeremiahcourtposed in September 2019, or so. My dad never wanted to hurt my feelings but there were a few times he said something that did. Not today. 120421 Lauren Caldwell starts courting, again. During the Bontrager Family Singers Summer Tour, Liz introduced Denver and said:He praises the Lord every day for a certain young lady from Minnesota! Duggar Data thinks she first said this on June 13, 2020, which was the first concert in the 2020 Summer Tour. 092521 Stephan Wissmann proposes to Jana Duggar. Jadon Carl Bates was born to Zach + Whitney (Perkins) Bates on June 7, 2021. If so, their engagement would be only 5 Days Longer than Average, and the Predictor would be off by just 1 Week. 082821 Josh + Cassidy (Bowers) Bontrager announce Pregnancy #3. Looking at Chelsy's new post about Denver and Praise's wedding, she says of the Bontrager family "We now number twenty-six with two more on the way". Praise and Denver got married in March so I am sure an announcement is coming any day now. Here we go again Its this months installment of the Next 6 Months! Currently, the Predictor gives Allison + Jeremiah an ESOQ of 8 Children. An unmarried fundie theyve been friends with a long time. It has since fallen a smidge and sits at #52 in 2019. Other than that no. Sincerely Doubting theyll wed on Monday, lets adjust it to Saturday, March 13, 2021. After a 9Day NICU hospitalization, he is home with the family. Allison + Jeremiah will set a new MarriagetoFirstborn record if Helferich #1 arrives before June 28, 2021, or after February 22, 2022. Trace Bates didnt courtpose on May 29 (0.5 SD Late). NPD is August 14, 2021 (+2 SDs). An unverified registry (on Amazon) indicates the Wedding Date will possibly be March 20, 2021. NPD is July 3, 2022 (+1 SD). Yayy!! So it's possible that he will be married in a year. Nurie (Rodrigues) + Nathan Keller did a Sex Reveal for their Firstborn, due in October, on June 17, 2021. I would say it as "Malackeye" and Helferich with the ch as a gutteral sound like in the German ich or the Scottish loch. Stop writing marriage advice! Factoring in Allison + Jeremiah, that shifted to Age 22.87 for Females (+226 Days), and Age 22.74 for Males (+57 Days). On Saturday, August 15, 2020, at 3:00 PM CST, Allison Nicole Bontrager, 26, married her fianc, Jeremiah Seth Helferich, 24. Tonight (November 30, 2020), the Bontrager Family Blog announced that Denver, 20, is engaged to Praise Helferich. Just investigated, and I have Carsons DOB input wrong in my spreadsheet. I wonder if Allison will transition to mommy blogging or stay surprisingly restrained like she did after she got married. Was it early, late, or what? 082721 Katie Bates + Travis Clark get married. Date. Jana Duggar + Stephen Wissmann are widely believed to be courting, or at least in some kind of relationship. I have the feeling that Bons are going to marry their 4 youngest as soon as they can. Part of the difference in treatment could be age - both chelsy and alison married at 27, that's 9 years of single adulthood to fill in with road trips and friendships. This came after being sick for an entire month (I'm immunocompromised). Lawson Bates didntcourtpose to Tiffany on July 2 (On Time). But really they are actually very beautiful. Honestly, theirs was basically spoton with that, and thus barely shifted the average, at all Factoring Allison + Jeremiahs in, your typical Bontrager Courtship now lasts 258 Days (1 Day). Doing the math, Allison + Jeremiahs Courtship lasted ~257 Days (8 Months). (NoteThis is based on a Courtposal Date of Christmas 2020, which is just a very, very rough estimate. The Helferiches live in Mountain Lake, Minnesota, and do mission work in Mexico. And, the entire occasion were captured with some damn good photos. When I was pregnant with my oldest we didnt find out the sex. and, 12 NonPartnered ChildrenTimothy, Kaylee, Rene, Phillip, Samuel, Gabriel, Tessie, Hannah, Olivia, Sadie, Sofia, and Janessa. She hasnt revealed her due date.). indoor wedding during a pandemic without a mask anywhere. He works on the family farm and tours with the family band (The Bontrager Family Singers). (Rodrigues Data), 101621 KellerRodrigues #1 born to Nurie + Nathan. Welcome to one of America's craziest families, Brooklyn! New blog post! Loose fangirling and thread drift rules. One son and one daughter married a Helferich. 051921 Courtney + Christopher Rogers announce Pregnancy #12. Since someone brought up both Carver and JoshuaThere seems to be an extra in that picture. Lincoln, Hudson, and Liz are all teens and so are Hannie and Jackson. No wonder her advice is terrible. Anna is duethis fall, but hasnt stated exactly when. 091021 Karissa + Madrae Collins announce Pregnancy #10. This is a small hometown store that weve dealt with for 30 years. 4.) She obsesses over being single & perfect marriage. Its the last book of the New Testament of the Bible, pronounced Mal-uh-kai. Shes the 2nd Child and 2nd Daughter of Josie (Bates) + Kelton Balka. Should I say my husband is often late? He plays guitar, violin, and mandolin. I am NOT happy. She is their 9th Child. But Praise was surprising, I thought they'd go with a family name. If we later learn their Courtposal Date, their data obviously would factor in. never speaking bad of your husband is extremely broad. 011522 Stewart #2 born to Carlin (Bates) + Evan Stewart. But I do have a small number of people who KNOW my love and my commitment and I theirs.. and when I need to drop a weight and vent all my momentary frustrations I know I will get the laughs, the "same girl, same" and we move on to the next topic.. b/c it i just a safe space to vent.. it is not a sign that the end is near. it's obviously way out of date now, but I just thought it was such a fundie way to stage a family photo (although I could be wrong, let me know if it's normal to take professional kissing pictures, and especially family kissing pictures). As suspected, Denver is involved with his Older Sister Allisons SisterInLaw, Praise. Good luck, Mary! Hurray!) Theyre next due to announce on June 2, 2021 (+2.0 SDs). No other Predictor Family has ever had 2 Children marry into the same family. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. 100721 Jed + Katey (Nakatsu) Duggar announce Pregnancy #1. Also, Lauren Caldwell didnt marry Titus Hall on June 18. 070721 Josh + Anna (Keller) Duggar announce Pregnancy #7. 1999), Brooklyn has never been in the US top 1000 for boys. Denver Bontrager + Praise Helferich got married in Iowa on March 20, 2021. Should I say my husband is often late? , The Bontragers have two sets of double in laws. Courtship Prediction is halted for Sarah Maxwell. The 2nd Childs birth is the hardest for the Predictor, since theres very little data to work with. Didn't she just get married? The Seewalds announced the birth via YouTube. I wouldnt be surprised if both Jackson and Hannie went up early as a pair to help and hang out with friends. One cal. Failed Relationships Failed Courtships or Engagements now factor into the data for Age at Courtship, Age Gap, and PreC.S., Courtship, or Engagement Length. Hes facing a two count federal indictment for possession and receipt of child sexual abuse images. Note that, while this sounds like a huge change, it only affects the Overall and FamilySpecific Data, which is only used as backup data for couples that do not have any pregnancyrelated data of their own. I wonder if they held onto the news for so long because they wanted privacy, or because they knew that Mondays are the best days for social media engagement. And this was their second (!!!!!) Brooklyn Praise Duggar was born on February 19th. (Hurray! Everyone is human. The Bontrager family is pretty good at arranging marriage for their childeren. No way. Get The Data Here. (1 SD Late!). If Allison + Jeremiah do maintain 444Day PP, theyd have the 2nd Fastest PP of any Predictor Couple Only Courtney + Christopher Rogers (413Day PP) are faster! Malachi Seth Helferich, Firstborn Son ofAllison (Bontrager) + Jeremiah Helferich, was born on June 4, 2021. Its nice to make time for your husband and I recommend it. 091721 Karissa + Mandrae Collins announce Pregnancy #10. 071521 Seewald #4* born to Jessa (Duggar) + Ben Seewald. They like to hold off on announcing until after the wedding! 012822 J. BontragerBowers #3 born to Josh + Cassidy. Is there a couple named Laud and Colorado too by any chance? It has never been in the US top 1000. I am starting Violin-Lessons again in the fall! 1.) His 5 Older SiblingsChelsy Maxwell, Allison Helferich, and Mitchell, Carson, and Joshua Bontragerare all married, as of 2020. Her marriage advice holds zero value for me. Thanks for reading Duggar Data. Factor in Allison + Jeremiah, and that shifts to 105 Days (7 Days). Im not going to drop my crying baby to go be with him. Fern Elliana Seewald was born on July 18, 2021, and it was a Hospital Birth. Im guessing wives in fundieland need to just smile and shut up when their husband makes a mistake. Kaylee Rodrigues didnt begin courting on May 18 (+0.5 SD). They definitely broke up. Allison hasnt shared much about her Due Date Not even which month its in. (NoteKudos to a helpful Anon, who assisted me in tracking down Jeremiahs DOB on Ancestry, as well as a free, publiclyaccessible genealogy search site. These events were already late, they missed a deadline against since April 1st, and still havent happened (Alphabetical by Predictor Familys Last Name). It looks like Priscilla Gerber. We dont have a CS Start Date. Honestly, not sure. I'm kind of glad Hannie and Jackson are still "paired". (1.5 SDs Late!). None. Maybe that was her announcement? ), So, heres the Estimated Relationship Timeline were working with. I predicted pregnancies for Chelsy, Allison, Cass, and Praise in 2021. Isnt she beautiful? After labouring almost all day, it was finally time to meet our little girl! We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. PreCourtship. 3) drop anything to be with him?! Why would you want to be a girlfriend? Or can I not say the truth. John + Abbie (Burnett) Duggar didnt announce Pregnancy #2 on June 13 (On Time). Can I say my husband forgot the baby in the car? (Confirmed). Karissa (Goering) + Mandrae Collins (Prolific Instagrammer), Sierra (Baird) + Mark Dominguez (Counting On; Friends of the Duggars), Courtney (Harkins) + Christopher Rogers (Prolific Instagrammer), Kristen + Justin Young (Counting On; Friends of the Duggars). In 2020, 27% of US Tumblr users had an annual household income of over $100,000. On a name nerd level, the double "ch" sound in Malachi Helferich is too much for me (assuming they pronounce it -rik instead of -rich as I just realized I'm not 100% sure). But I detest weddings in general. We normally tip delivery guys, and tip well, really well. I'm heartbroken. I won't be surprise if Liz marries Carver by her 18th birthday. Fundie girls really think highly of themselves. 061821 Lauren Caldwell marries Titus Hall. SO pissed off. Josiah + Lauren (Swanson) Duggar didnt announce Pregnancy #2 on June 5 (+1.5 SDs). I vaguely recall her having a difficult time with Austin, but does anyone remember anything more specific?) 102421 Joseph + Elissa (Frost) Maxwell announce Pregnancy #4. (0.5 SD Late! I really liked them. Plus the families would be so intertwined that it would be easier to keep Liz in line after marriage. I dont understand how fundies want to be a girlfriend instead of a wife when a wife is the end all be all of their lives. ", Heistheway White (Pelaiah isn't much better), Praise The Lord Helferich (via Duggar Data), Spurgeon Elliot Seewald (his Mom tried to make the nickname 'Quincy' happen for a while), Michael Christian (Bates) Keilen (Michael is a girl), Aynjel (Seriously? I just lost a dear friend to Covid. Also, as far as Family Data goes, Im only factoring in the relevant Matriarche.g., Michelle in the DuggarSpecific Data. Marlin + Beckys 10 Children, including 5 Married Couples. Madeline Sue Maxell was born ~10 Weeks PrematureonJuly 9, 2021, and remains in the NICU. The Bontrager Blog announced it on November 30, 2020 at 11:17 PM. Lincoln Bontrager is 20 years old. They seemed close as little kids and their talking heads were usually pretty funny. (Abbies Mothers Child Spacing wont factor into the Duggars FamilySpecific Data, for example.

Ive made a few changes and improvements, mostly fairly minor. Cute baby and I kinda like the name as well. Jeremiah proposed in May 2020, most likely on May 30, 2020. How about Chelsy? Allison + Jeremiah are 722 Days Apart (or 1.98 Years)in age, favoring Allison. Congrats to the newlyweds! Im guessing wives in fundieland need to just smile and shut up when their husband makes a mistake. We honestly have no idea when they started courting, if they indeed are courting. Any you predict will have more than that? nelliebelle1197, Now that theyve had their 1st Pregnancy / Child, the PP is based on their 1st Spacing and the Bontrager Family 2nd Child Multiplier. Brooklyn is Josie's middle name, as well as the name of Erin Bates Paine's second child. By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use. She already gave birth, though! It doesnt have a ch sound. Still, this isnt really enough to give us a Courtposal Date. (0.5 SD Late!). However, we do know that they met in May 2019, and had their First Date in September 2019. (0.5 SD Late! Cant estimate a PreC.S. ), it's not that surprising they aren't travelling abroad with a group of girlfriends just yet. eta: Nope, I even knew how to pronounce Malachi but apparently just decided to forget that while writing this comment. Does Malachi have a ch sound? If they had some idea of what was going on or that something might be happening with Josh, maybe they wanted their kids to have a good time before the family had to descend, once again, into paparazzi hell. Its another girl. Thank you, Helpful Anon!). 121021 Jana Duggar marries Stephan Wissmann. Well have to wait and see what happens. She was born on May 13, 1994. One. Soon, 2 Bontragers (Denver and Allison) will be married to Helferiches (Praise and Jeremiah). Im glad I will probably never be one again. (1.5 SDs Late! Neither Liz nor Rebecca are even 18 yet (are they? Maybe their phone camera (I'm assuming it's a phone) is pretty low quality. Of course the wedding was COVID central, no masks, no distancing, indoors, as per usual. never speaking bad of your husband is extremely broad. Alreadylate for Pregnancy #2,Si + Lauren (Swanson) Duggar didnt announce on their +1.0 SD Date (March 26, 2021), either. Interestingly, in the UK top 1000 it sat at #592 for girls in 2019. Like Si + Lauren, Sierra + Mark Dominguez also missed anotherdue date on March 25, 2021, when they failed to announce Pregnancy #8. They plan to wed in October 2021. She went to the NICU for awhile, but is now home and doing well. 2.) 062221 Nathan Bates proposes to Esther Keyes. I forget when exactly the wedding was but is it also possible that the Duggars wanted to give their kids a break before Joshs crimes became public? With that said Basically all Duggar Data can do, here, is update you on their Procreative Pace, ESOQ, and When to Expect Helferich #2, Before this, Allison + Jeremiahs PostFirstborn Procreative Pace (PP) was 649 Days, which is simply the FamilyWide PP for the Bontragers. Did anyone miss a deadline in March? MotherInLaw Data wont factor in, except in the Overall Data. Powered by Invision Community. What happened in March / Early April 2021? I think the pressure to get the childeren married is bigger then their band. But I would never just drop whatever Im doing to be with him. This is what the Predictor forecasts. NPD is August 23, 2021 (+0.5 SD). My almost 12 years of marriage would never give that kind of advice.

Praise is a more interesting name, though of course we are all thinking of Praise T. L. Helferich! Ive said it before and Ill say it again. I know shes lost count. (1.0 SD Late! Its ridiculous. Or should I lie? Carry on. They had gone public with the pregnancy on February 17, 2021, via Allisons Instagram. She's hasn't been featured much on her parents' blog or in-laws' blog. 040921 Jesse + Anna (Craig) Maxwell announce Pregnancy #1. NPD is August 11, 2021 (2.5 SDs Late). They are probably all friends with Liz and Hannie being the closest. Is it Bryn with #2? Two Bontrager sons married two Bowers sisters. Two is enough amongst families. Ive only been a bridesmaid 4 times and I hate being a bridesmaid. NPD is September 24, 2021 (+0.5 SD)but honestly, its unclear if theyre going to court, if theyre precourting now, if theyre already courting, or what. Wtf?! As for the Engagement At only ~77 Days Long, it was short. I really hope its not muh-lah-chi. It's Chelsy. Bontragers/Bowers/Helferich 9: Oh Nos!

Bateses Zach + Whitney, Alyssa + John, Tori + Bobby, Trace, Josie + Kelton, Jackson to Jeb, Bontragers Chelsy + John, Mitchell + Bryn, Allison + Jeremiah, Carson + Carolina, Taylor to Rebecca, Caldwells Paul + Christina, Micah to Moriah, Duggars Jessa + Ben, Jinger + Jeremy, Jer, Jason, James, Jackson to Josie, Maxwells Nathan + Melanie, John + Chelsy, Mary. This is an interesting tidbit. Joshua and Cassidy had their 2nd last April, Carson and Carolina had their 2nd last August, Mitchell and Bryn had their 2nd last December, Allison and Jeremiah are having their first soon. Duggar Data thinks thats significant, and possibly evidence that hed just proposed. Also, they didnt do a Sex or Name Reveal, waiting until birth to announce both. I am still not quite over it. Mama made me some coffee to keep my energy up since I had a long day ahead. (0.5 SD Late!). Josh + Anna Duggar announced Pregnancy #7 on Annas Instagram on April 23, 2021. On top of that it was absolutely filthy, despite being run through a car wash. They didnt share the Due Datenot even the month!so, its impossible to analyze their Timing Data (of Pregnancy Announcement, Delivery vs. Due Date, etc.). Is. Malachi Seth is a cute name combo, but it doesnt go with Helferich. In the US, it first entered the charts for girls names in 1990 coming in at #912 and peaked at #21 in 2011. ), 082321 John + Abbie (Burnett) Duggar announce Pregnancy #2. As of now, I intend to include Child Spacing data from each of the Predictor Family Matriarchsi.e., Kelly Jo Bates, Becky Bontrager, Christina Caldwell, Karissa Collins, Michelle Duggar, Sierra Jo Dominguez, Suzette Keller, Teri Maxwell (PostReversal), JRod, Courtney Rogers, and Kristen Young. Its the same rule I discussed previously Its now written into the Predictors algorithm, allowing me to avoid manual calculations. Was this a honeymoon kid? 061721 Stephen Wissmann proposes to Jana Duggar. Liam decided to name herPraise The Lord in honour of her Christ-honouring birth! Karissas 9th Childa girl, Anthym Blissis due on New Years Eve. Are you going to do a summary? They are next due to announce on May 21, 2021 (+0.5 SD). Im not going to just drop my plans with my best friend to be with him. She ascribes to very classic quiverfull beliefs and eschews any form of birth control. Wtf?! And I must agree with @Nothing if not criticalthat the photos were bad. New fundie mothers too (that Sarah chick that is a Morton friend is someone I want to slap every time I happen to come across her because apparently, She. (Just one name nerds opinion), New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Fundie Snark. (Citation.) As for marriage advice: Girl. 061721 Kristen + Justin Young announce Pregnancy #4. With a 444Day PP, Allison + Jeremiahs ESOQ is 11 Children. Im reading it like mal-uh-kai. Whats expected to happen from now through September 2021? 2018) and Addison Renee (b. During that marriage I can guarantee not one bit of her advice would have been useful. 122321 Joe + Kendra (Caldwell) Duggar announce Pregnancy #4. Thats 1 Birth / 14.6 Months. Yay! Katie Bates + Travis Clark got engaged in Key West, Florida on April 7, 2021. Awards to you if you tracked with all of that=)). Its just easier control of the females. Some of them definitely qualify. I think the following MothersInLaw of Predictor Couples fit the billLauren Bowers, Cheryl Burnett, Laura Craig, Gina Hall, Lisa Helferich, Jill Keilen, Tammy Paine, Guinn Seewald, Hilary Spivey, Denese Stewart, Lana Swanson, Susan Waller, and Sandra Webster. Moriah Faith Caldwell was born to Pastor Paul + Christina Caldwell on May 17, 2021. nelliebelle1197 locked, unlocked and locked this topic, Copyright Free Jinger LLC All Rights Reserved. ), 043021 Mary Carol Maxwell starts courting. NPD is August 30, 2021. (Thus far, 50% of 2ndGeneration Bontrager Couples has an Older Woman.) The year is still young and I think it's going to happen for all of them (obviously for Allison), even if some go late into the year and don't get announced right away. (1.5 SD Late! It does its best! Factoring Allison + Jeremiah in, the Bontrager Average shifts to 330Days (+98 Days). Im guessingeither Cassidy, Chelsy or Praise have the other baby on the way. 2.) There is a depate going on wheter or not the Bontragers want their single childeren married off because they have a family band that keeps getting smaller and smaller after each wedding.